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        <![CDATA[ I've heard on this site and others that we use all levels of octane.  What do you use.
Ride Safe,
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: What Octane??? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ As a old car mechanic I can tell you that octane rating is a way to measure how fast a fuel burns the higher the octane the slower or more controlled the burn
is. I&#39;ve run both in my bike and havn&#39;t noticed a differance in performance or mileage. With the oil companies gouging us the way they are I&#39;m not
giving them and extra dime, just my 2 cents worth, with that said I don&#39;t think it matters, I also use stabil in the winter in all my stuff, and in the
summer in my... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I put Stabil in my lawn mower to last the winter without any gunking problems.  The bikes I prefer to ride all winter.<br><br>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I know our T's run 8:1 compression and would probably run fine on kerosene, but I run premium for the detergent additives. My bike sits all winter and I'm not one to go tearing into my carbs every spring. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It is funny that higher octane gasoline is actually less volatile than lower octane gasoline yet many think it is more powerful.  It is not, what is more powerful is the high-compression engines that need a less volatile fuel so it doesn't explode too quickly and cause mechanical damage to the piston, its connection pin, the connecting rod and the main bearings.<br><br>
Fred ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hear, hear! The high octane fuels were designed for the high compression engines of yesteryear and some of the high performance engines being made today. It was needed to give a softer burn in the combustion chamber to avoid longterm damage to the valves and lifters. High octane in most of todays engines is totally unneccesary and is a waste of money. High octane means more power is a myth that carries over from earlier Detroit muscle cars and their big high compression engines. Modern... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Right on Phillip. I work in the oilfield down here in the Gulf and thats the biggest scam that the oil companies have going on. Todays engines (cages and bikes) are so efficient that there really is no need to go high octane. Thanks for explaining it so well. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ We shade tree wrenchs need all the help we can get. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->   Welcome Jason. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Welcome Aboard, Jason.  It's good to have a wrench around, especially to answer the tough questions that only experience teaches you.  <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :gthum --><img src=http://acetourer.i8.com/grinthumup.gif ALT=":gthum"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--><br><br>
Thanks for the lesson on gasoline and engines of different ages.  <br><br>
Fred ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Ok.... My 2 cents..... In my years of fixing Hondas I have found that if you want to run the 90  it is fine in the newer bikes.... A waste of money? No... The detergents are a good thing every now and again but running it all the time is not good. In the newer bike it is not so bad but in the pre 1990's it could do more harm than good. The 90  will actually erode your vital engine parts. Yes it burns cleaner but also hotter and can burn up rings and even gaskets. Now I am sure if it is... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I recently switched to the lower octane and my 'T' seems to be stalling (coughing) more often in cooler weather.  I am running stock exhaust with stock carb jetting.  I don't know if it has anything to do with the octane.  It could be the particular station I use often (a BP station near work).<br><br>
I don't remember the scoot being quite so cold blooded running the higher octane.  I will try switching gas stations and see if it runs better with a different brand of lower octane.<br><br>... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ After reading these threads, I started using regular fuel.  My bike performs the same, guess I'll keep the extra change.<br><br>
Andy<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hhhmmm!  I think said all that in three sentances on the 1st thread.  Oh well, I may not know all those fancy words but I know I'm not a cheapskate.  Ghostrider ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I have a friend that drives a Texaco tanker in Houston and according to him; When a gas station gets regular they order X number of gallons. If the tank is full many are guilty of diluting the excess into the premium tank. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Phillip, thanks for providing a thorough presentation on the ins-and-outs of which grade of gasoline to burn in our T engines.  Sounds like to avoid carbon build-up we should use 87 octane gasoline except:  A. if we are running at high altitudes it may be beneficial to use a lower octane or  B. if we are experiencing pinging, like sometimes happens in hot weather, we could use a higher octane to eliminate the cylinder destructive which occurs during pinging.  <br><br>
Does that about sum it... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <br>
Octane A side benefit of superior combustion is less octane requirement. Octane is widely misunderstood, and one of the most tenacious motorcycle myths says that it adds power. As we've seen, however, octane is merely reduced volatility, i.e. stability under pres- sure. In fact, both 80 and 100 octane fuels have exactly the same thermal potential: about 18,000 BTU per pound, so there is nowhere for extra power to come from. Despite this, many riders continue to use higher octane fuel... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Steel, you got a spare cardboard sandwich?  <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--><br><br>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcnuts/rt-fuel1.html">www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcn...fuel1.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>
Wrenching with Rob--Chemical Soup: The Meaning of Gas.<br>
By Robin Tuluie <br>
Editor's Note--This is the first in a series of &quot;Wrenching with Rob&quot; articles, in which Vintage Editor Robin Tuluie will discuss, in depth, technical and theoretical topics that make motorcycles function.<br><br>
In many high-performance... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msgroup.org/TIP037.html">www.msgroup.org/TIP037.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>
Octane ratings<br>
I think that some attention should be paid by all of us to both altitude and temperature in the selection of our fuels. When it is hot a higher octane is often called for. The closer to sea level you are, the more likely you should be running with a grade of gasoline above 'regular'. Note, however, that the newer your motorcycle is, the less... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ A lot of people (rich sport car types) mite have been using the high octane stuff, but now with the price of gas up and lay offs, stocks down ect. ect.  I think the high octane is such a slow seller aftraid I mite be getting OLD gas which has lost most of its octane,  Would like to know if any of you actually tested the stuff or gov. studdies, first hand not rumor that has.  <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/pimp.gif... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I used to run high but have read and watched enough reports that like the 3000K mile oil change, a complete myth. I started using 87 instead of 93 back in 1994 and noticed no difference in performance or mileage in any of my vehicles. <br>
I saved a few petroleum products bucks for addition of more &quot;safety chrome&quot;. Now if you really want to increase mileage and performance it's a proven fact chrome is more aerodynamic and offers greater visibility than painted surfaces. In addition... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I've heard on this site and others that we use all levels of octane.  What do you use.<br>
Ride Safe,<br>
Zapper ]]></description>

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