Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:29:50 GMT

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (tonythecarguy) — Tue, 09 Jul 1963 14:13:38 GMT

Weather.com forecast is looking good for knoxville, I hope it holds. We are supposed to get some rain here tonight and then I think we will get to drive back through it tomorrow as we ride east. If only one day of 9 is rainy I'm happy!

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:27:55 GMT

Tony,

Have fun on your ride down. I will call you Thursday late afternoon or early evening to see what the schedule is like for dinner with you and Stony and spouses. Be sure to do an anti-rain dance before I get there. Thanks for driving all the rain away for me.

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (tonythecarguy) — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:44:41 GMT

Fred,

I can deal with warm, sounds like the new coat is still a good balance. My zipper is being installed today, not a moment to soon I leave tomorrow 7:30 AM; I kind of forgot about them this week as I was at a FEA conference (GUNS you want to talk about some eggheads, these guys made me look like a jock

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:48:41 GMT

Stan,

I did have an evaporative collar I used to use back in the 1990's when I played golf. It felt cool for a while, then was warm and humid after that. It would probably have feel better if I was moving more quickly and replenished the water more often.

With my Hi-Viz Kevlar mesh jacket and pants, but without evaporative cooling, I expect I would feel happily fatigued after riding several hundreds of miles on a hot day. That would be normal for me riding all day...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (bamaTrider) — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:25:28 GMT

I had been wanting to try a cool vest for those 90+ temps. Danbgt says they work great in the sub 100F heat in TX. The only draw back is that they rely on evaporative cooling of the water within, and if the humidity is high they don't work as well. Anyone besides Dan got any personal experiences with these in their own areas.

My own experience with evap. cooling inside my mesh jacket comes from a cheap hydro-gel filled vest that the D.O.T. workers use. It's a simple drape...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:47:00 GMT

Tony,

With air temperatures in the upper nineties I have been wearing my Motoport 100% Kevlar jacket and pants while riding the last couple of days. As you know whenever the air temperature gets above body temperature it is going to feel extremely warm. It fact my face felt exceedingly hot when moving in the direction of the sun when riding at speed and like it was getting an instantaneous sunburn when stopped at traffic lights. Fortunately, my new Kevlar suit does allow...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:49:23 GMT

Alain,

No, this younger brother is an auto body mechanic and is just 2 years younger than me. He works for a Chevy dealership. My youngest brother, who was a motorcycle mechanic for about 15 years, is now in nursing school. He could not make a good living as a motorcycle mechanic. He is 18 years younger than me.

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (tonythecarguy) — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:52:59 GMT

alepel wrote:
Fred.....if but for a brief moment you had me believing that I was looking at a trick photo with you standing next to yourself. Then I read it was your younger, taller brother and I still had to look twice at the photo. Is this the brother who was/is the motorcycle mechanic?

Ykes that was a hard to follow post! I had to check what was in my coffee cup this morning.

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (alepel) — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:55:58 GMT

Fred.....if but for a brief moment you had me believing that I was looking at a trick photo with you standing next to yourself. Then I read it was your younger, taller brother and I still had to look twice at the photo. Is this the brother who was/is the motorcycle mechanic?

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:56:24 GMT

Tony,

Here's a couple of shots showing the visibility of the Motoport's Hi-Viz color. While my brother, mother and her 90 year old husband were visiting I took a glorious Tuesday off (May 6th) and we rode over to King's Mountain National Military Park as well as to the new Indian factory and around Crowder Mountain. It was a great day to be out riding. My mother took these pictures.

With My Younger, but Taller Brother, Ready to Ride!...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (alepel) — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:40:18 GMT

Fredrider wrote:
....when in a seated position the back elastic will pull the jacket material up against my back and the front will touch my protruding belly.

Fred......tsk...tsk...tsk. It sounds to me like you need to work just a wee bit harder on that recumbent bicycle.

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Tue, 20 May 2008 11:33:02 GMT

Tony,

As long as the jacket stays reasonably cool or at least not unbearably hot, I gladly trade comfort for safety. I definitely would rather have Kevlar mesh and not have the possibility of embedded, melted plastic in my skin.

Even with the waist straps totally loose, when in a seated position the back elastic will pull the jacket material up against my back and the front will touch my protruding belly. I had thought about cutting the elastic. Maybe I just have to...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (tonythecarguy) — Tue, 20 May 2008 10:48:56 GMT

Fredrider wrote:

but it is just not as cool or nearly as comfortable as polyester mesh.

I guess that is the price one must pay for safety. What are your thoughts on the trade off. A little warmer for a lot more protection. It seems reasonable to me.

...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:15:45 GMT

Tony,

Some more feedback.

1. Motoport's 100% Kevlar mesh is not ever as comfortable or as cool as the polyester mesh First Gear jacket and Joe Rocket pants. It is thicker and heavier which means less air gets through and the material that lays on your skin causes it to sweat a little, even without the CE armor. I am not saying that it is not much cooler than solid ballistic nylon material or leather, because it is much cooler, but it is just not as cool or nearly as...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (tonythecarguy) — Thu, 15 May 2008 15:19:03 GMT

2mm is not cinchy; it is surprising that they ripped like that. I guess this was what motoport was talking about when they stressed the comparisons to NEW leather. I guess with it being a natural fiber it will deteriorate.

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Thu, 15 May 2008 11:47:54 GMT

Tony,

This week, a pair of 2mm thickTourMaster perforated deerskin gloves wore out on me. I probably have had them 5-6 years. They were very comfortable and other than the fact that they bled black stain on me whether it rained or was hot enough to make my hands sweat they were my favorites in hot weather. This week both gloves developed rips in the leather 1/2" to 3/4" long near the outside of the wrist. I am glad I was not wearing them in an accident.

At...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (alepel) — Mon, 05 May 2008 21:24:42 GMT

Fredrider wrote:
I think I will be able to use that helmet with no problem when I am riding my T. That new oversize Clearview windshield does not let any significant air velocity anywhere near my helmet and consequently it is nice and quiet even without ear plugs.

I agree Fred. That has been my experience also. In fact I ride with the visor open all the time.

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Mon, 05 May 2008 15:48:29 GMT

Tony,

I am sorry to hear that Megan got stuck with one of the X-Lites too. A vendor was selling them for $200 at the Hoot last year, down from their $359 list price. I still think I paid too much.

I think the more technical explanation is that it has both terrible kinds of noises, the low-pitch booming noises associated with air leaking into the helmet from underneath and the high-pitch, wind whistling noise from air leaking either through the face shield or around the...

Re: 3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (tonythecarguy) — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:01:07 GMT

Fred,
The stretch on the inside of the arms should help the armor stay in place, good job motoport.
I thought it was an X-lite. I got Megan an X-lite at the beginning of last year. I have suspected that it was loud as she is always turning up the MP3 player much louder than is nessacry in my Arai. Asking her she could not give me a very tecnical explanation as to wether she tought it was loud or not; I knew what was good for me for a change and stoped asking. I also suspected...

3/4's Length Jackets

feeds@yuku.com (Fredrider) — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:06:11 GMT

Anybody have and use a 3/4's length jacket? If so, does it keep the cold air from coming up between your pants and your lower back?

Back in '99, before mesh jackets were available, I bought a waist length First Gear jacket. It seems to be a very good all-year round jacket. With the zip-in fleece liner it has been very warm. I have ridden down in the teens with it (at least for 10-20 miles at a time). With its 5 large vents I could wear it even in the warmest weather I encounted...