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imrocky25	Starting to feel like a Harley		Lead	[-]
Posts: 31 05/05/06 5:16 PM	Tags : None I have been ignoring this issue hoping it would disappear after my last oil change but it is still a persistant bugger. I have a drip. Not a bad drip...just one drop after every ride. I thought last year I had a small leak from the oil filter seal and a new one would fix the problem. Nope. I cannot figure out where exactly the leak is coming from because of my big head not being able to fit under the bike. Has anyone had any drips of oil coming from behind the kickstand area up near the oil filter? Thanks. A.
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Fredrider	Re: Starting to feel like a Harley	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6307 05/05/06 6:25 PM	My T burns oil at the rate of 1 quart every 2000 miles, but it has never leaked any oil. Fred
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CleRider	Re: Starting to feel like a Harley	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1908 05/07/06 2:54 AM	Not sure, but a couple of thoughts. - Next time you change your oil change the crush washer. Might be some crud or something there causing a leak. - Have you tried to wipe down the crankcase? Might make finding a leak a little easier. - Way off base, but it happened to me with my truck once. Make sure the old oil filter gasket is off the crankcase body. Had a gasket separate from a an old filter once and after putting on the new filter it sprang a leak after a few miles.
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bamaTrider	Re: Starting to feel like a Harley	#3	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 4012 05/07/06 3:55 AM	Go down to your local auto parts store and buy a tube of flourecent die leak detector. Auto Zone has it for about 2 bucks a tube. Make sure you get the one for oil and not water. Just add it to the crank case and run the bike for a few miles. Place a mirror and a light under the bike. You should be able to see the green die near the leak. Just keep tracing the die trail up the engine until you've found the highest point it is leaking from. I have used this many times before and it works great. If it is still hard to see the flourecent die, then go down to your local Wal-mart and purchase a std. size black light bulb, and put it into your drop light. This will help illuminate the die even more. Putting the bike in a dark area of the garage will also help when using the black light. Good luck. Stan 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black) 2000 Ace Tourer (Black & Chrome) 2000 Suzuki Marauder VZ800 (Custom)
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imrocky25	Re: Starting to feel like a Harley	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 31 06/08/06 10:10 PM	I finally had some time to dink with the leak this last week. I ended up getting some leak detector from NAPA for about 3 bucks...Autozone gave me a funny look when I asked for UV Leak detector. It seems the leak is coming from a bolt I cannot identify...so here I am to pose the question to all of you. Directly above the oil pressure switch there is a bent piece of copper held in place by a bolt. Looking through the service manual I don't see anything that describes what this widget does. The source of the leak seems to be coming from this bolt or whatever the widget is holding in place. So I got out my 10mm wrench and tugged on the bolt a little more. Havent figured out if that took care of the problem but I am hoping it worked. So...the main question is...what is this bent piece of copper doing? Thanks. A.
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Ted Norris		#5	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 23 03/14/07 2:07 AM	Hi Guys, I'm new here so I hope I'm doing this right, another way to check where the oil leak is coming from is to clean the ares real good and then use baby power and dust the area real well untill there's a white coating where you think it's coming from, start the engine and let it run for a bit then check, if it's leaking it will show. Ted
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ragtop69gs		#6	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 1024 03/14/07 10:13 AM	Look at the shifter shaft seal. I have a slight leak there, but not enough yet to worry about it. Jay Patriot Guard Rider http://www.patriotguard.org/ 98' T Black & Chrome 69' Buick GS 400 Conv. " Never ride faster than your angel can fly" "Ask the American Indians what happens when you don't control immigration" *Some people are like a Slinky .. not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.*
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Skip MMShadowT		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5750 03/14/07 7:10 PM	Baby powder, that's the first time I'd heard of that technique. "We want to be free... Free to ride our machines without being hassled by the man!"
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burninfilm		#8	[url]	[-]
HSATF 2nd Officer Posts: 480 03/16/07 9:26 AM Tail Gunner	Baby Powder? Why not !, Thanks....Bob <><
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bamaTrider		#9	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 4012 03/16/07 11:24 PM	The old baby powder trick. I had forgotten this one. Thanks for the memories, Ted. Us poor old shade tree mechanics use to use this trick in the old days before the dye was available. White flour would work also in a pinch, but was harder to wash off. There were lots of make-shift tricks that the do-it-yourselfers used to diagnose problems, or as a temp. fix to get you home, and most worked well enough to get the job done. A couple of emergency repairs from the old days that come to mind include; Small coolant leak fix = Black pepper could be added to the radiator as a temp. fix. The pepper would find the hole and plug it up as the pressure would try and force it out of the tiny pin hole or crack. The pepper flakes would start to swell from the moisture and heat making the seal even tighter. This has gotten me home with a leaking heater core at least once. Leaky gas tank = Bubble gum can be used as a temp. plug for a pinhole leak on a gas tank. Just put the bubblegum patch over the hole and press as much as you can into the hole while leaving most of the rest stuck over the hole on the outside. Another trick is to use a crayon, candle, or bar of soap over the hole. You rub the soap/crayon/ candle stick back and forth over the pinhole using firm pressure until the leak stopped. Stan "We are different - yet we are the same" 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black)
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Fredrider		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6307 03/17/07 3:15 AM	Stan, Back to the old days when bailing wire and chewing gum reined supreme, are we? What about duck tape? Isn't that the new mechanical cure-all? Seriously, Stan, thanks for the old-style tips. They are oldies, but goodies. Fred
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rickyblaze		#11	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 7 04/22/07 10:03 PM	mine leaks from the same bolt,what is that bolt and copper for ????
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rickyblaze		#12	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 7 04/23/07 5:02 PM	I asked a Honda Mech about these parts today and he had no idea what they are for but the copper is called a sealing plate and the bolt is just a bolt. I ordered a new sealing plate for $3 but the bolt hits the frame when you try to remove it . The service and mech guys said it probably had a pc of grit under the bolt or plate and scarred it. I cleaned the old one and tighened it now the leak is a little smaller.
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rickyblaze		#13	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 7 04/25/07 8:43 PM	Okay,after so much flack from my Harley owning buddies I had to try and fix the sealing plate . I just could'nt wait for the new one. I took the plate off and sure enough there was a gouge on the bolt side of the plate. I took a fine flat file and resurfaced it with the file and some 150 grit sandpaper on both sides. I was flat again so I reinstalled it and ran the motor to warm up the oil and so far so good. The bolt is'nt a regular bolt,it's got threads about 1/4 of the bolt length towards the shoulder and then the rest is turned down and hollow with a couple jet looking holes in the side. Some sort of metering device perhaps ? Anyway it does'nt leak (knock on wood)
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bamaTrider		#14	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 4012 04/25/07 10:44 PM	What it sounds like you are describing, is what is called a banjo bolt. (I don't know why they call them banjo bolts because I had never heard any music come from them). LOL Anyway,these are used on small engines a lot for the purpose of transferring oil from one part of the engine to the other-externally via a small tube. At the end of these small metal tubes is a banjo shaped fitting that the bolt goes through and connects it to the engine. Under both the bolt head, and the banjo fitting there are a couple of copper sealing washers. That is likely what you filed down smooth again. Stan "We are different - yet we are the same" 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black)
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