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hombldr |
The new 'Hammer 1300 |
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They wait till now to bring out a bike that might have persuaded me off Halfbreed -- doubtful but might -- and I can't ride. The more I read about the Yamaha 1300 the more I see that I like. Anyone test ridden one yet?
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dukey33 |
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I haven't ridden one.
The latest issue of M/C Consumer News has a comparison between the Yam 1300 Tourer and the VTX1300R outfitted with Hondaline accessories to make it a comparable touring machine. The Yam bested the VTX in almost every category: engine, suspension, brakes, controls, handling, fit & finish, etc. The oustanding gripes 'bout the Yamahog was the oversized windshield, the rear disc brake was difficult to modulate, and the clutch didn't like being abused. In summary, they are both good bikes, but all the testers picked the Yam over the VTX. Sorry if this adds to your pain. duke |
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mktobob |
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The Yamaha 1300 "Star Motorcycle" really grabbed my attention when they introduced it last year.
It has 18 more HP than their 1100, is water cooled and has a seat height of 28 inches. And it looks darn good. Bob |
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Chicago |
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I wish the bags were body-colored and it needs a true dual exhaust. 2 bags + 1 exhaust = goofy-lookin' IMHO.
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Fredrider |
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I've got to sit on the new mid-size Yamaha Tourer this weekend. It's seat height is higher than the VTX1300 (28.25" vs. 27") and so are the floorbloards (11.125" vs. 9.625"). That gives the Yami much better cornering clearance. Given that the Yami also has a solid-mounted engine making its handling much more stable and secure in the turns there is no doubt which one of these bikes I would buy if I had to pick between the two.
On the other hand our T's have a shorter wheelbase (65.2" vs. 66.4" for the V-Star Tourer), a higher seat height (28.8" vs. 28.2"), radial tires, and hydraulically (automatically) adjusting valves. I am not sure what the floorboard height of our T's is, but our T's did have the best cornering clearance of any previous baggers, so I still would pick a T over this new Yamaha offering. I bet a T would beat the V-Star 1300 through a series of tight turns, but I may have to try them both down the Dragon about 10 times to be sure. Fred |
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zoso68 |
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Fred , You think 10 times would be enough ? You must have meant 10 passes each direction .
![]() Doug |
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bamaTrider |
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For a minute there, and until I re-read Lou's post, I thought he was talking about a Victory Hammer. The meds have gotten me a little more dazed and confused than normal.
![]() I would just go to bed and sleep them off, but they also have me a littled bit wired ![]() Stan "We are different --yet we are the same."
1999 Ace Tourer (black/silver 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 2000 Suzuki VZ800 |
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zoso68 |
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Stan , if it's "just a little wired " it means you're not taking enough
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hombldr |
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Maybe that's why I have to have drug recertifications every six months, so that I can show that I'm legally wired instead of some danged junkie.
Seriously, tho, I would really appreciate a riders impression of the new Yamaha from one of the family than several ride reports from "pros" who lways remember the advertising bucks they could kill by a brutally truthful report. Lou |
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Fredrider |
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Lou, Yamaha will have their demo fleet in Myrtle Beach during Bike Week in May. I am thinking of going down there on Fri. evening of Bike Week so I can ride the V-Star Tourer early on Sat. morning. That maybe my only chance this year since Yamaha will not have their demo fleet at the Honda Hoot this Summer. Star Days is in Chattenooga in July this coming Summer, but I don't know if I can sneak another bike trip in this year.
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Fredrider |
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Pictures of the new Yamaha mid-sized tourer taken at the International Motorcycle Show in Atlanta on 2/25/07.
Fred
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zoso68 |
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Look's sweet but after the great bag's on the T it'd be hard to switch to those little ones wouldn't it .
Doug
I'm glad to be here but.....where was I going ?
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mktobob |
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I really, really like the bike...BUT...like others have said, the bags just don't work with the bike. I can see a change there. I am not looking for
another bike so I guess it really doesn't matter to me anyway. Bob
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Fredrider |
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I demoed the V-Star 1300 Tourer yesterday. It's quite a sweet ride. I am very impressed. Like ours T's it is very smooth over bumps and also very
stable in the turns. I don't know if it leans as far as the T, but Yamaha has done a good job giving it plenty of lean angle when other manufacturers
including Honda (with its VTX's) have gone for lower seat and floorboard heights thereby severely limiting theirs. That 1300cc Yamaha engine is also quite
strong. It is very happy cruising at 75 to 85 mph. In fact, the way that it is geared you must be going over 65 mph to switch into the top gear which is
fifth. This is one bike you are not wishing it had another gear. It is fine the way that it is.
Some things I would change if I bought one. I would need a wider seat with more thigh support. I would also cut down the windshield a couple of inches. It is even too high for my 6' 1-1/2" height to see over. Yamaha always seems to have one or two things that would keep me from buying one. Their V-Star 1100 is a nice bike. It feels the closest to a T of any of the other 50-plus bikes I have ridden, but I would not buy one because its single-crankpin engine yields about 10% less power than the T and you must remove the muffler to change the oil filter. IMHO, the fatal flaws that would keep me from buying a V-Star 1300 Tourer are wrong saddlebag shape (not deep enough for my briefcase) and having to adjust the valves every 4000 miles. What was Yamaha thinking mandating that level of maintenance? If a bike requires 16,000 miles or more between valve adjustments I would consider owning one, but 4000 miles on a nuisance maintenance item like valve adjustment is not something I am willing to do. Otherwise it is a great bike. It is fun and comfortable to ride with a powerful engine. I would seriously considering buying one if it weren't for the shape of the saddlebags and the short valve adjustment period. If I get another opportunity I will demo it again, just because I like the ride. I definitely would like to take a week trip with one.
Fred
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maniac317 |
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Thank you Fred for your comments on the new 1300. Yamaha always seems to include some sort of irritating maintenance gremlin in their bikes. Years ago I
considered purchasing the V Star. I then discovered part of the exhaust had to be removed to change the oil filter! Very poor design IMO. Sounds like they have
continued with the 1300. I noticed you mentioned the need to remove the muffler to change the oil filter. And that valve adjustment interval, that would turn
me away by itself.
While we're on the valve subject what was Honda thinking by not putting hydraulic adjusters in their VTX engines? Could it be a ploy to get their dealers more shop work? I can think of no other reason. My goodness, if Kawasaki can enginer hydraulic lifters for their 1500cc and 2000cc engines why coundn't Big Red? Rich |
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Fredrider |
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Rich,
I may not have been clear in my post, but I was referring to the V-Star 1100 when I said the muffler must be removed to change the oil filter. I do not know if the new V-Star 1300 has the same requirement or not. I am not sure the reason the manufacturers are making valve adjustment a required maintenance item is to make work for the shops. All the motorcycle designers seem to think you can get significantly more output power out of an engine that has adjustable valves. Even the 1800cc Wing now has adjustable valves, as if it would have needed the extra power. Personally, give me the automatically adjusting hydraulic valves any day. I will live with the small power loss.
Fred
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