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HSATF 2nd Officer Posts: 417 06/14/07 1:08 PM Road Captain	Tags : None Seems recently when I come to a stop sign and then try to shift into low gear, sometimes the gears are jammed up a bit. This is a minor problem and every Honda I have owned seems to do this occasionally. If I let the clutch out just a bit and then try again I can shift. However this seems to happen more often of late. I'm wondering if this is something I should be concerned about? I generally down shift as I approach the stop letting the engine slow the bike. When I get to a stop I am usually in 2nd or 3rd gear. Could this downshifting cause them to stick a bit? Or could something else cause it? Thanks, Rich
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HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 690 06/14/07 3:51 PM	Mine does this too sometimes. I do the same as you and let out the clutch a bit. I've not been able to correlate it to hot/cold or decel rate or downshifting or anything. It just seems to happen sometimes. You can try blipping on the downshifts if you don't already do that. Helps the gears mesh better too since there are no synchros. If it bugs you enough, you can try changing oil grade or brand. Also check to make sure you're getting full release when you pull the clutch lever, not too much freeplay. duke loud horns save lives
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GaleRich		#2	[url]	[-]
HSATF 2nd Officer Posts: 417 06/14/07 9:05 PM Road Captain	Thanks. I think I'll try a different oil as you suggested. I believe I heard something about the effect oil has on shifting. I do "blip" on the downshifts. - Rich
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bamaTrider		#3	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 3734 06/14/07 9:14 PM	Both Honda and Suzuki V-twins are bad about this. I have never owned either that didn't do it. It's something that I have come to accept and just deal with it. The Rotella oil seems to have helped this somewhat. Stan "We are different - yet we are the same" 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black)
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HSATF Tail Gunner Posts: 233 06/15/07 8:13 AM Road Captain	Mine too and I've tried every make of oil and weight and synthtic oil trying to get read of the slit lifter noise that comes up once in awhile but the shift bit takes you by supprise.I just know that you have to be in at least 2nd gear if not 1st for it to never happen but I do know I've had this problem on many a bike.
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CleRider		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1904 06/27/07 11:46 AM	Rich, My T used to do that too. After I came to a stop I would not be able to downshift. I 'worked around' the problem by changing my riding style. Actually, my workaround was suggested as a defensive riding style change I learned in the advanced rider MSF course. As I approached an intersection, I would slow and downshift one gear at a time. By the time I came to a complete stop I was in first. I've learned that I want to be in first when I come to a stop... mostly so I can get out of the way if the vehicle behind me doesn't stop. Even the split second to rapidly downshift and get moving could mean the difference between avoiding a crash and a broken back. Andy
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HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 1122 06/27/07 12:03 PM First Officer	I just make sure I'm still rolling a bit when I downshift first, works every time. You meet the nicest people on a Honda (forum).
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Posts: 17 01/05/08 4:52 PM	OK, I'll bite. What's "blipping"? Also, is it really a good idea to downshift into 1st gear? I've always been told that was a bozo no-no. I've tried it at times rolling at very slow speeds to unlock stuck gears to no avail. I end up slightly letting out the clutch [click], everything is find.
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HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 3734 01/05/08 10:57 PM	Down shifting into 1st is OK as long as you are going less than 10 mph at the time of the shift. Blipping is the same as goosing or revving the engine with short quick twists of the throttle from idle. Stan "We are different - yet we are the same" 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black)
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