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HSATF Tail Gunner Posts: 91 02/17/08 3:48 PM	Tags : None I have been reviewing my manuals getting ready for my maintenance on the T. I came across some conflicting information regarding the check of the final drive fluid level. The Honda owners manual and Honda Shop manual say to leave the bike on the side stand. Cylmers warns that leaving the bike on the side stand leads to a inacurate reading and the bike should be upright. I thought I remembered reading on this site that the bike should be on the side stand when checking the final drive fluid, but I can not find it. Can you guys, please, shed some light on this dilemma? David 2000 Honda Shadow ACE Tourer - Black and Chrome (high contrast for high performance) 2002 Yamaha Royal Star Venture - Black and Chrome The possibility of the perfect picture lies around evey corner ... You just have to see it.
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CleRider		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1904 02/17/08 6:47 PM	David, I cannot tell you why, but I always level my bike before checking/changing the final drive fluid. I don't know the factory recommended schedule for changing the fluid, but I change mine every other oil change. A bottle of 80w90 gear fluid costs less than $10 and I can get 3-4 fluid changes out of one bottle. Andy
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Fredrider		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5921 02/17/08 6:52 PM	Andy, I have always checked my T's rear drive oil resting on the sidestand, just as the Factory Manual says to do. In over 73,000 miles I have not had any problems with the rear drive. I change that oil every 24,000 miles like the Manual stipulates. Usually too much oil is just as bad as too little. Be careful what you choose to do. Fred Last Edited By: Fredrider 02/18/08 6:25 AM. Edited 1 time.
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dukey33		#3	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 690 02/17/08 11:25 PM	Lessee.... The manual that was written by the folks that designed and built your bike says to check it while on the sidestand. The plagiarized version says otherwise.... Personally, I'd go with what the factory manual says. duke loud horns save lives
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alepel		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7869 02/18/08 8:14 AM	Duke....I remember awhile ago you were a part of a group Of Texas T owners that was organized by Davefash. You did a few rides and posted some great photos of a whole bunch of T's gathered together. I was wondering if you are still in touch with Dave? We seem to have lost him or he has been running silent. I hope that all is well with him. And while I've got your attention, I wanted to tell you how much I have enjoyed your posts to the forum. I find your posts informative and you impress me with your knowledge of the Tourer. alepel "Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr Last Edited By: alepel 02/18/08 1:44 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Phaedrus		#5	[url]	[-]
HSATF Tail Gunner Posts: 91 02/18/08 12:34 PM	Well it looks like we have people on both sides of this issue. I am inclined to side with Duke and the bike manufacturer. I just thought it was the biggest contradiction I had seen between Clymer and a manufacturer. It was also stated in a very emphatic way with a warning by Clymer. I appreciate the testimonials of everyone who has posted. It gives reassurance to those who are faced with a decision. I think this is a good thread to bring to the attention of all of those who have the Clymer manual. They have a choice to make. I personally always get the Clymer and factory shop manual because they compliment one another. Sometimes the Clymer will have more detail and workarounds for certain problems. Sometimes the shop manual has more details. When there is a difference in opinion, I think it makes more sense to go with the factory, as suggested by Duke. Alain, I will second your motion that Duke composes some informative posts. Actually, I could say that is true for all of the people that have posted for this thread. Your names keep popping-up with very timely information. I am not just saying this, because I do cut and pastes of threads that interest me, and your names are literally there all the time (I just thumbed through a bunch of them). So thanks for your dedication towards helping the membership of this forum. Speaking of cut and pastes, I did come across the reference I remembered from this forum regarding the topic of this thread. And here it is: West Tn Dawg I do know you should fill to the hole, with the bike sitting on the side stand. If you over fill it even a little it will "puke" it out of the vent and make a mess. NEVER fill it standing up-right! As far as what oil to use, I used what was suggested in the manual. Not the name brand but the correct weight. Rick So thank you Rick. If anyone else wants to chime-in on this one, it would be interesting to see what the consensus is. David 2000 Honda Shadow ACE Tourer - Black and Chrome (high contrast for high performance) 2002 Yamaha Royal Star Venture - Black and Chrome The possibility of the perfect picture lies around evey corner ... You just have to see it. Last Edited By: Phaedrus 02/18/08 12:38 PM. Edited 2 times.
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dukey33		#6	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 690 02/19/08 12:15 AM	alepel wrote: Duke....I remember awhile ago you were a part of a group Of Texas T owners that was organized by Davefash. You did a few rides and posted some great photos of a whole bunch of T's gathered together. I was wondering if you are still in touch with Dave? We seem to have lost him or he has been running silent. I hope that all is well with him. And while I've got your attention, I wanted to tell you how much I have enjoyed your posts to the forum. I find your posts informative and you impress me with your knowledge of the Tourer. Davefash is alive and well. He is currently busy with other things that are competing for his riding time (his priorities are messed up ). I've managed to meet with him for a couple of rides not long ago. He still has his "Black Magic" T and it is still running great. Thanks for the positive comments on my posts. I'm just sharing what I've been able to learn. duke loud horns save lives
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alepel		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7869 02/19/08 8:01 AM	Duke....thanks for letting us know that Davefash is alive and doing well. Should you see him again please convey to him that we all miss him on the forum. Congratulations again on that gorgeous bike. alepel "Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr
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Mountain Tourer		#8	[url]	[-]
HSATF Road Captain Posts: 388 02/21/08 8:05 PM Tail Gunner	I learned the hard way. Always check and fill on the side stand or this will happen to you..... Roger DARE TO BE DIFFERENT AND LIVE LIFE!
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burninfilm		#9	[url]	[-]
HSATF 2nd Officer Posts: 448 03/31/08 8:29 AM Tail Gunner	Side stand, just as the factory service manual advises. It is a pretty easy job, but a hint to all.. Buy the gear oil with a fill spout and a piece of tubing that will snugly fit that spout and long enough (at least 12") to reach the fill hole. Don't even waste your time trying to do it without pulling the left saddlebag...Bob <><
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alepel		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7869 03/31/08 11:34 AM	burninfilm wrote: Don't even waste your time trying to do it without pulling the left saddlebag...Bob <>< And Bob....what do you use to clean the garage floor? alepel "Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr
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burninfilm		#11	[url]	[-]
HSATF 2nd Officer Posts: 448 03/31/08 7:41 PM Tail Gunner	Alpel, It drains beautifully into a margarine container sitting on an old towel and then use the same towel & container on the garage floor, next to the rear wheel and under the large fill/check hole. By using the tubing to fill, the oil isn't going in all that fast and won't come pouring out real fast when full.. Really an easy job, plus it only holds a little over 4 oz......Also, my wife was keeping me company/watching, so I had to be extra careful...hahaha.. BTW, I do an oil/filter change in the garage too, using containers and a towel and the floor stays clean then too, but that is a little harder to do cleanly..hahaha Bob <><
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Fredrider		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5921 04/01/08 11:12 AM	Come on Bob, be honest with us. Your wife was "supervising". Fred
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burninfilm		#13	[url]	[-]
HSATF 2nd Officer Posts: 448 04/01/08 7:41 PM Tail Gunner	At least supervising !!...hahaha Bob <><
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