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HSATF 1st Officer
Posts: 587 02/15/07 6:35 PM |
Has anyone seen a Can-Am Spyder yet?
Spyder Home Page They are scheduled for delivery to showrooms in the fall of 2007, but they are doing demo rides all over the country this spring and summer. Stony 
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ragtop69gs |
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Posts: 992 02/15/07 6:46 PM |
Looks like a fun ride. Have they released pricing yet?
Jay
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mktobob |
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Posts: 2307 02/15/07 7:24 PM
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Looks interesting. Looks like a reverse trike duel sport bike. Bob
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hombldr |
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Posts: 1898 02/15/07 7:44 PM First Officer |
Does anyone else remember the old CanAm dirt bike? Pretty fair dirt machine for its time altho I was never into riding the dirt that much.
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Posts: 117 02/16/07 2:03 AM Road Captain |
Lou, I owned a 1975 can-am 250 enduro. I traded in a year old 250 elsinore on it and although the honda was a nice dirt scoot the engine on the can-am was incredible. It was made by rotax, the austrian company that i believe bombardier now owns. It was a two stroke rotary valve induction with oil injection. The oil tank was in the backbone of the frame. Probably the most reliable and fastest dirt bike i ever owned, and i owned a lot of them. ride safe, Terry
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hombldr |
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Posts: 1898 02/16/07 2:54 AM First Officer |
YepTerry, your description matches my memory of the Can AM. You are right in that Bombardier owns Rotax. lock, stock, and barrel. Kind of funny to realize that several of BMW's enduro, or dual purpose machines,as they like to call them are buying engines from a Canadian company with an Austrian manufacturing plant. Do I recall hearing something about "fine German engineering" as a selling point? Oh well, BMW was a builder of Pratt and Whitney designed radial engines under license for many years.
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Skip MMShadowT |
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Posts: 5679 02/16/07 4:49 AM
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Quote: $14,999 US and $18,400 CA.  |
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Posts: 6121 02/16/07 5:05 AM
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Posts: 1137 02/16/07 3:03 PM First Officer |
I know this has a big trunk up front, but doesn't it just scream for a set of hard bags? I think a set of body-colored bags would really balance the styling.
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alepel |
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Posts: 8049 02/16/07 3:37 PM
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Okay I understand that the Can-Am Spyder is a novelty, but is there a practical reason for designing the trike this way or did someone just want to build a trike in reverse?
I just don't get it! alepel |
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stonyrd |
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Posts: 587 02/16/07 8:04 PM |
I though I read somewhere in their web page about a set of touring bags, but I couldn't find pictures or descriptions of any. I agree that a nice set of hard bags would balance out the look of the machine, but after owning a T, I think most bikes look incomplete without hard bags.
Stony
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Fredrider |
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Posts: 6121 02/16/07 8:19 PM
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Alain,
"Tricycles generally follow one of two layouts: delta, with two wheels at the back (of which one or both may be driven) and one steered wheel at the front; and tadpole, with two steered wheels at the front and one (usually driven) wheel at the back." "Tadpoles are more stable under braking and more likely to slide instead of roll; front braking hard on a delta requires the vehicle to steer almost straight to avoid tipping. The balance of friction patches and rolling resistance also means that tadpoles tend to understeer and deltas oversteer." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricycle Bottom line: Tadpoles are easier to steer and are safer at higher speeds in the turns. Fred |
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alepel |
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Posts: 8049 02/16/07 9:09 PM
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Fred....thanks for the detailed explanation.
As I looked at this particular photos of the Can-Am Spyder I couldn't help but think I was looking at a snowmobile on wheels. 
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bamaTrider |
Jay Leno takes delivery | #13 | ||
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HSATF 1st Officer
Posts: 3867 11/15/07 8:16 PM |
I hope this link works. Jay Leno gets 1st production Can Am Spyder. See the video here;
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/cars/Can-Am_shell.shtml Stan
"We are different - yet we are the
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2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black) |
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Fredrider |
Demo Ride | #14 | ||
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Posts: 6121 04/05/08 9:36 PM
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I demoed the Can-Am Spyder in the rain today. It was cool. Unlike any of the other 70+ demo rides I have taken of other motorcycles and trikes we watched a
video first, all about how the Spyder handles with its anti-lock brakes and traction control. There was footage of with and without the traction control and
anti-lock brakes engaged. Without the Spyder would lift-up one wheel when driven hard in a turn and it would also not turn when hydroplaning, but with the
traction control and anti-lock brakes switched on all wheels stayed on the ground and it was steerable due to its electronic control unit's intelligent
application of the three independent brakes and also cutting the throttle (independent of the rider's throttle setting) to keep the wheels from spinning
without traction. I am glad that traction control was 'on' and working today because I am sure I would have spun-out that Spyder at one point during
the ride. It started to slide and turn, but stopped sliding and straightened out after about 2/3's of a foot. I would not have been pushing it in the
rain if it did not have this great traction control.
Like a car it leans away from the turn. I think I would rather have a Paggio trike that leans into the turn like a motorcycle. It is a fancy machine that includes a real reverse gear, meaning it does not use the starter motor for reverse like Gold Wings and ElectroGlides do. It also is fast, fun, has 44L of front cargo space, can be gotten with a taller windshield and backrest as well as with higher handlebars for touring. I should have an "official" photo they took of me on the machine after the ride in about 48 hours. In the meantime, following are some pictures I took today at the Alpha Motorsports dealership in Rock Hill, SC. 
Fred
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Posts: 769 04/06/08 1:48 PM
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Sounds like you had a fun day Fred. As I mentioned last summer my son Richie got to demo the Spyder at Americade 2007. His short take on it "like
riding a snowmobile on wheels". Rich
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Posts: 6121 04/06/08 6:28 PM
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Posts: 8049 04/07/08 7:04 AM
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Fredrider wrote: Fred.....that's an interesting observation and one I had not thought of before.
alepel
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Posts: 6121 04/08/08 11:11 AM
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Alain,
I think the Spyder could be driven off the lane center just enough to avoid any of the wheel riding over any oil spillage. During the pre-ride instructions our ride leader had told us to ride single file unless we got stuck at a light then he wanted the first guy in line to double-up with him so we could get the light to change. He said one Spyder alone will not cause the light to change. It takes two. If two Spyders will fit or almost fit in a lane there must be a way to keep all three tires out of the greasy center portion of the lane. Dan, Does the greasy center of the lane ever bother you when you are riding your trike?
Fred
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Posts: 8049 04/08/08 11:42 AM
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Fred.....that much attention to the road while I'm riding to ensure that I am not on the grease line is annoying. I hadn't thought about it with regard
to 3-wheel vehicles. I'm wondering what the reality of the situation is like. Is it really a problem for three wheeled vehicles or just an imagined one.
Dan....what say you?
alepel
"Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr |
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Posts: 3867 04/08/08 9:37 PM |
I think that the traction control and anti-lock brakes would off set some of the hazard of a greasy lane center.
Also, when the road is wet, the grease tends to wash over to the shoulder some. I don't see where it would be much more of a problem for a 3 wheeled vehicle than a four. Stan
"We are different - yet we are the
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