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HSATF Member Posts: 7 11/07/07 9:41 AM	Tags : None Has anyone ever replaced the lifters in one of these engines to try and eliminate the ticking. Mine just turned 25k this past weekend. I rode from eastern NC to Bluefield WV and back and the bike ran great but that noise gets on my nerves. I've talked to mechanics at several shops and none have ever been inside one of these engines. One guy told me that he thought it could be done without removing the engine. The diagrams also show spacers under the lifters. Maybe this is a way to adjust valve clearance. Does anyone have experience with this? Banjoman
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dukey33		#1	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 695 11/07/07 10:14 AM	Hydraulic lifters are self adjusting for lash or valve clearance. Try changing to a different brand or viscosity of oil before tearing into the engine. At 25k, you're just past break-in mileage and shouldn't need new lifters. Also, be aware there is a primary gear condition that causes a noise similar to ticking. Check out this thread if you haven't already. duke loud horns save lives
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banjoman123		#2	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 7 11/07/07 10:40 AM	I've tried several types and viscosity oils, currently castrol 20-50. It seems to make no difference. I bought the bike with 12k miles and the noise started about 20k. I'm pretty sure the noise is in the front cylinder.
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HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 1123 11/09/07 9:07 AM First Officer	Banjoman, I sure hope you're wrong. My T has 35,000 on it and the ticking is driving me nuts. I'm going to replace the primary gear with one from an Aero and if that doesn't do the trick... You meet the nicest people on a Honda (forum).
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alan		#4	[url]	[-]
HSATF Tail Gunner Posts: 139 11/09/07 2:32 PM	I've got the same ticking from the front cylinder when it gets warmed up. There aren't any additives I'm willing to try cause of the wet clutch and I'm really not going to tear down the engine to make it stop. It may come back again. Sometimes it ticks away and then just stops. Other times it's quite loud..... I stop for gas and when I restart it's gone. At first I thought it was in my head with my remaining two brain cells trying to fire at the same time. Now THAT would make a flash seen from the shuttle. I'm so relieved it's just the T engine I'm gonna live with it. I recently sold my Kawi 85 GPz 550 and last April I shimmed out the valves cause of a ticking...... it returned after just 2000Kms. I know they're very different engines but it does strengthen the case for gremlin bells. If it ain't broke I don't fix it and if it don't keep me from riding I fix it later. That's my opinion and experience which is worth just what you paid for it. Have a nice day.
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HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 3746 11/09/07 11:11 PM	Alan, what you have described about the noise going away after a gas stop sounds exactly like both my T's would do after a short stop. On both it was the primary drive gear and replacement fixed both of them. I used a section of old hose pipe as a stethoscope to find where the noise was the loudest. On both it was at the lower right engine case just above the brake pedal. I've never heard the lifters on either of my 2 T's, so it could still be what's wrong with yours. But if it is a noisy primary drive gear, then it does not hurt anything by not replacing it. It's just more of a nuisance thing having to put up with the noise. Stan "We are different - yet we are the same" 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black)
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HSATF Tail Gunner Posts: 139 11/10/07 2:28 PM	I think the sound bounces off the windshield and fools me into thinking it's coming from higher than it is. I have an amplified stethoscope but the battery is dead and when I get back from a ride........ I forget. But the next time I'm at a traffic light giving "the eye" to a cute widow in a Mercedes convertible and she says: "Is that your mechanical heart valve or are you just glad to see me"; I'll check it out. I can see where the springs losing temper could get "sacked" and allow the gears to "tick" along with the engine pulses at low load like idling. A bit of gear slot expansion at a high temp and tickity tick. I'll bet a sharp counterman at a industrial bearing supply could find the right springs. And I've got some Loc-Tite gasket goo that I use when replacement gaskets are no longer available and all I've got is the what's left of the old one. I worked as a millwright on the night shifts fixing everything from bicycles to bulldozers covering a plant spread out over 1600 acres. I fix fast, cheap and only once..... no do-overs. But the sun has come out so I'm putting on my long johns and going riding. Maybe I'll get some of them chaps....... but not them vinyl skivvies... or conchos..... or fringe......uh-uh.
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ducttguy13		#7	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 3 03/31/08 1:13 PM	i've also heard the ticking for a while now. i took mine to the nearest Honda service dept. and they diagnosed it as bad hydraulic lifters. if they're correct they quoted me around a grand to replace both of them. when asked what would happen if not replaced they said i could drop a valve part into the piston. it's good to hear it also might be the primary drive gear instead. thanks for the eye-opener.
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banjoman123		#8	[url]	[-]
HSATF Member Posts: 7 04/01/08 3:56 PM	I took mine to several honda mechanics. They all said it sounded like a lifter, but they all also said it would likely run forever, the noise is just a nusiance. I tried a couple of additives (seafoam, marvel mystery oil) but they made no difference. If anyone finds a solution, please let me know. Banjoman
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bamaTrider		#9	[url]	[-]
HSATF 1st Officer Posts: 3746 04/01/08 10:47 PM	Honda's are known for lifter noise. My 750 Ace with only 8k miles made this noise and the local Honda mechanic said that as long as it keeps ticking, then don't worry about it. It's when it stops ticking that I need to worry because that would mean the engine just died. He was being truthfully sarcastic and then said it was likely the primary gear on it also. Stan "We are different - yet we are the same" 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 1999 Ace Tourer (Silver over Black)
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