Gary and others;

One thing I learned while in boy scouts, nothing is waterproof. Water is some sneaky stuff and with enough of it, or with a little wind, it will find it's way into a pack.

Here's a 'old boyscout' trick. Pack your gear in a garbage bag, then put the garbage bag into the duffle bag/stuff sack/backpack. The duffle bag material will protect the plastic bag and your stuff will stay dry. If you put your gear in the duffle bag then wrap the duffle with a garbage bag, your stuff will get wet when the plastic bag rips.

Before the Americade trip, I bought a couple of 10x10x20 duffle bags from Target (under $10 each), trimmed them to remove the extra padding, straps and material I did not need, and use them for saddlebag liners. When I get to the motel, I just have to carry two duffles and one t-pack to my room.

Andy