What is the suggested time period / mileage for a fuel filter change? Any other comments?
Mike
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Bugler101 |
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I have about 18,000 miles on my bike since the last fuel filter change. My bike started backfiring just a couple hundred miles ago and I think that is because my carbs aren't getting enough gas. Everything worked great up until that time and I'm a firm believer in "check the simplest things first" philosophy. My milege suggests that I have had about 150 fill-ups since that last filter change and some of those fill-ups have been at some real out-of-the-way gas stations that might have had some crud in their tanks.
What is the suggested time period / mileage for a fuel filter change? Any other comments? Mike |
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Fredrider |
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Mike, I am not sure what the recommended replacement interval is for the fuel filter, but I am sure that you have far exceeded it and should seriously think about replacing it with two or more fuel filters to make up for your transgression.
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Fredrider |
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Mike, please forgive my end-of-the-day silliness in the previous post. Neither my T's official Honda Service Manual, nor my Nighthawk's Clymer Service Manual says anything about how often to replace the fuel filter. The Clymer manual, does however, say to clean the fuel strainer screen every 4000 miles. Both manuals say to replace the air filter every 12,000 miles. Maybe that is also a good interval for the fuel filter. Anybody else have some thoughts on the subject?
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Fredrider |
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Mike, here is what About Auto Repair, autorepair.about.com/cs/d...82203a.htm , has to say about the subject.
"I receive a lot of questions concerning power loss, hesitation and hard starting in a vehicle. Many of these complaints can be traced to a clogged fuel filter. As the fuel filter gets older. More and more dirt collects inside it, gradually restricting the flow of fuel to the engine. A partially restricted filter will usually pass enough fuel to keep the engine running at idle or low speed, but may starve the engine for fuel at higher speeds or loads. So your engine may run fine putting around town, but sputter and lack power when you try to drive at highway speeds or pass someone. I am often asked, "How often should I change my fuel filter?" If you have a high mileage vehicle you should replace the fuel filter once a year. By the time your car is six or seven years old, there can be a lot of dirt and rust inside your fuel tank. Normal condensation and moisture inside the fuel tank can form rust and every time you put in fuel, dirt can enter the fuel tank. All of this can cause a fuel filter to plug up fairly quickly, so replacing the fuel filter annually will prevent many problems Many newer vehicles do not specify a recommended replacement interval. And many have a so-called; "Lifetime" fuel filter they claim never needs to be replaced. But any fuel filter will clog and need to be replaced so don't fall for that "never needs changing" story. At my station there are fuel filters in the pumps to give the fuel a final filtering before you buy it. This prevents a lot of junk from getting into your fuel tank. I replace these filters on the first of every month whether they need it or not. However, there are a lot of stations out there who do not have fuel filters on their pumps so the fuel you put in your tank may be contaminated with water from leaky underground storage tanks, improperly mixed alcohol blends, or even watered-down by an unscrupulous operator who's trying to make a fast buck. Replacing the fuel filter once a year as a preventative maintenance item is insurance that reduces the risk of the fuel filter plugging up. Brand new cars right from the dealer are as susceptible to getting dirty fuel as any other car so even though the car is new, the fuel filter will start to clog fairly quickly." |
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Fredrider |
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Mike, Yahoo says this about that.
Question:How can I tell if my fuel filter needs to be replaced? Answer:The only way to tell for sure is to remove the filter and blow through it. If there's little resistance, the filter is still okay and does not need to be replaced. But if there's more than minimal resistance, the filter is dirty and should be replaced. CAUTION: Gasoline is poisonous, does not taste very good and may burn sensitive lips. So don't hold the filter to your mouth to blow through it. Instead, attach a short piece of clean rubber hose to the filter and then blow through the hose to test the filter. And also, FILTER REPLACEMENT Replacing the fuel filter periodically (every year or so) for preventative maintenance can reduce the risk of filter-related driveability problems. Most vehicle manufacturers, however, no longer specify a replacement interval for the fuel filter. Or, if they do it's some incredibly long interval like once every five years or 50,000 miles. Many mechanics feel this is unrealistic. Waiting that long to change the filter is asking for trouble, especially if you drive on gravel or dirt roads, buy the cheapest gas you can find from "cut-rate" stations, use gas with alcohol in it, or your vehicle is more than six or seven years old and may have rust in the tank. |
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CleRider |
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Mike,
You don't need no stinkin' filters. Do what I did to my 76 Ford Torino. I was stranded on the side of a highway in the middle of East Nowhere Kansas. Ford had a special filter that bolted into the carb. I took a screwdriver, poked a whole in through the filter and was good for another 12k miles. Andy |
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bamaTrider |
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Andy, that works the same on a stuck thermostat. We were traveling through the forest when about half way through, the car started to over heat. The inlet hose had swelled up indicating the thermostat had stuck shut. The only tools we had was my Swiss Army knife and an old rusty screwdriver. I removed the top hose, bent the shank on the screw driver, and used it to punch the valve in the thermo enough for the water to flow. Added water from the creek nearby and made it home w/o further incident.
Stan "We are different --yet we are the same."
1999 Ace Tourer (black/silver 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 2000 Suzuki VZ800 |
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Bugler101 |
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Fred,
Your humor is greatly appreciated along with your informative excerpts about fuel filter replacement. As for you other "jokers" with your folksy narratives...........I enjoyed those too! I have some time on my hands this week and next so I can get the bike up on the jack and attack that fuel filter. I'm tempted to ride my bike out in the middle of nowhere, drill a hole in the fuel filter lengthwise then see if my T runs better so I can have road story like the older guys, Stan and Andy. Merry Christmas! Mike |
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danbgt |
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Quote: Naw. If you have a drill with you, it will look "staged". You have to have that crap happen for real or it don't count. Like spending a whole day by the side of the road, finding out that there is a main fuse in a little box buried under the seat that can blow and shut down every freaking thing!! -Dan 1998 ACE T (Black & Chrome & Chrome)
1999 Valkyrie Interstate Motor Trike (Black) 1998 Mustang GT Convertible (Laser Red) |
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CleRider |
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Mike,
It's kind of like, uh, running out of gas in SR 224. The only two things I remember about the adventure: - fixing the fuel filter with a screwdriver - a huge sign that said "Wichita, The happening place in Kansas - 175 miles" with an arrow that pointed left. And the damn Glenn Cambell song that was running through my mind. |
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Bugler101 |
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I don't usually carry a drill with me but I have been known to carry a small .22 Magnum revolver on road trips, legally, of course. That would put a neat little hole through a filter.
I replaced the fuel filter this morning with a see-through variety. I removed both side covers and took the battery out and had the whole job completed in about 10 minutes. I will test it on the road tomorrow. Mike |
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GaleRich |
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Just don't use the 22 shell as a fuse. See the Darwin award below ... in case you hadn't seen this one when it went around a few years ago:
[From the Arkansas Democrat Gazette] Two local men were seriously injured when their pickup truck left the road and struck a tree near Cotton Patch on State Highway 38 early Monday morning. Woodruff County deputy Dovey Snyder reported the accident shortly after midnight Monday. Thurston Poole, 33, of Des Arc and Billy Ray Wallis, 38, of Little Rock are listed in serious condition at Baptist Medical Center. The accident occurred as the two men were returning to Des Arc after a frog-gigging trip. On an overcast Sunday night, Poole's pick-up truck headlights malfunctioned. The two men concluded that the headlight fuse on the older model truck had burned out. As a replacement fuse was not available, Wallis noticed that the .22 caliber bullet from his pistol fit perfectly into the fuse box next to the steering wheel column. After inserting the bullet, the headlights again began to operate properly and the two men proceeded toward the White River bridge. After traveling about 20 miles and just before crossing the river, the bullet apparently overheated, discharged and struck Poole in the right testicle. The vehicle swerved sharply right exiting the pavement and striking a tree. Poole suffered only minor cuts and abrasions from the accident, but will require surgery to repair the other wound. Wallis sustained a broken clavicle and was treated and released. "Thank God we weren't on that bridge when Thurston shot his balls off or we might both be dead" stated Wallis. "I've been a trooper for ten years in this part of the world, but this is a first for me. I can't believe that those two would admit how this accident happened," said Snyder. Upon being notified of the wreck, Lavinia, Poole's wife asked how many frogs the boys had caught and did anyone get them from the truck. (Way to go, Lavinia). |
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bamaTrider |
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![]() ![]() ![]() "We are different --yet we are the same."
1999 Ace Tourer (black/silver 2004 GL1800 Goldwing (Titanium) 2000 Suzuki VZ800 |
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Bugler101 |
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Using a .22 round as a fuse would have never crossed my mind. Come to think of it, frog gigging and marrying a girl named Lavinia wouldn't have either............
Mike |
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danbgt |
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I watched an episode of "Myth Busters" about that 22 ammo for a fuse thing. They determined that it could be done and that there was no way to make the shell go off in a fuse block. When they intentionally made the cell go off, the casing flew away and the bullet just dropped. So they don't think it could have actually shot the guy. It's one of those urban legends.
Still. They recommended NOT using a 22 shell for a fuse!!! ![]() -Dan 1998 ACE T (Black & Chrome & Chrome)
1999 Valkyrie Interstate Motor Trike (Black) 1998 Mustang GT Convertible (Laser Red) |
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dukey33 |
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yeah, I happened to see that episode too. They had to use a really big wire in the circuit and make it a dead short straight from the battery to put enough current into the .22. With any of the normal size wiring in the truck (up to 14g), it just melted the wire before anything else happened.
Still make a good fable nonetheless! duke |
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