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 alepel |
Son Failed His Road Test! |
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Posts: 7575 04/17/08 12:16 PM
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Just got done talking to my son and learned that he failed his motorcycle road test. Seems he forgot to lower his visor and the testor failed him for not
having protective eyewear. I am understanding of the safety issue involved here but does it warrant failing the road test.
This just pisses me off. 
alepel
"Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr |
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dynodon1 |
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Posts: 50 04/17/08 2:39 PM |
I am not sure how much leeway the tester has. But they love to catch little stuff like this.
Bet he won't forget it next time! |
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Posts: 2268 04/17/08 2:46 PM
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I agree....sounds petty to fail someone for that. I would think that a gentle reminder after the road test would have accomplished a positive result.
Now don't get me going on some educational methods. Part of my job is to teach new CEO's as they come into the organization. My teaching philosophy has been to set up people to WIN not fail. What does being a hard ass accomplish other than animosity? I just don't understand some peoples need to show alleged superiority in that department and think that failing someone for something petty is going to accomplish anything positive. There are other ways to get the point across. Bob |
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Posts: 257 04/17/08 3:30 PM |
mktobob said: "My teaching philosophy has been to set up people to WIN not fail."
That's how I teach people, too. I get them rolling with small successes so they don't feel so daunted by learning something new, and it sparks their excitement to keep learning. Good for you - great attitude! alepel, there's always a reason for everything, and perhaps delaying his "M" prevented him from being in an accident this weekend. It's like the story of being stuck behind a slow driver, and realizing that if you hadn't, you may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. I know it's frustrating not to pass - I failed my first auto driver's test because I didn't slow down to 25 MPH in a school zone (the sign even said what hours) - BUT SCHOOL WAS NOT EVEN IN SESSION!! Turns out the crotchety old butthead that didn't pass me NEVER passed anyone on their first try. But it made me really head out and sharpen my skills (never cross a 16 year old girl with her eye on a prize like a driver's license HAHAHA). Good luck to your son, he'll have the M in no time at all, I'm sure! Live It, Love It, Paint It, Ride It!
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Posts: 13 04/17/08 3:42 PM |
Alpel,
My son failed his first time and it is tough to stay neutral,because of course I heard only one side since I was not there to witness it.I went back down with him and tried the fiqure 8's with his rocketship GSXR 600 and I could not make an 8 if my life depended on it.He ended up using the GS500F that I bought from him and he passed the second time with flying colors.The handelbars are higher up.Those nasty crotch rockets are hard to drive and I continue to stress Drive Safe.If you are in some tight circumstances those bikes do not handle well.With those handelbars so low there is noway you can do tight corners.If anyone passes a test with those things,Kudos. Don |
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Posts: 351 04/17/08 4:09 PM Second Officer |
Alpel, you didn't mention whether it was administered by the SOS (or gov. body) or the MSF. When I took the road test with the MSF the only two ways to
fail were to rack up too many points or drop your bike.
Eye glasses were considered adequate protection. When my son failed the automobile road test I am glad I was there to witness it. No if, ands or buts. He made it the second time and I'm sure your son will too. |
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Posts: 756 04/17/08 8:40 PM
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you need to move to missouri. as long as you have a windshield, you don't even need protective eyewear. i usually do anyway. this does seem petty to fail
somebody, instructor must have been having a bad day.
i read in another forum that the state patrol along the dragon have been stopping to check if eyewear is shatter proof and if it's not, they crush the glasses and write you a citation. i've always wanted to do the dragon, and thought i might this year, but from what i've read and seen, think i'll stay away from there....just give me the arkansas twisties and i'm happy. bud |
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alepel |
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Posts: 7575 04/18/08 12:01 PM
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My son failed his Motorcycle road test that was administered by the New York State Dept of Vehicles. At my urging he has sign up for the Motorcycle Safety
Course where I am certain he will learn more and get a much more fair evaluation.
alepel
"Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr |
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alepel |
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Posts: 7575 04/18/08 12:04 PM
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eclecticdawn wrote: Dawn.....so true. My belief system is that there are no coincidences in our life. Everything happens as it was suppose to and in order to recognize this we have to change our point of view until we can see that. Knowing my son, he has shrugged this off already and is onto something else.
alepel
"Ride with the Spirit always, and in all ways"....hombldr |
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Posts: 648 04/20/08 6:00 PM |
When Washington State decided to impound any motorcycle being ridden by a person that did not have motorcycle operator's endorsement, the local goldwing
group invited Washington State Patrol to attend a gathering and administor the tests. Needless to say, a dozen or so long time Goldwing riders failed the test.
I'm sure your son will pay attention to the details after attending the safety class. That being said, the testor was a jerk for not pointing out the problem and giving him a second chance. Scott "Silence is golden, duct tape is silver" |
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Posts: 5701 04/21/08 11:38 AM
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Alain,
It was a terrible day, that day in 1974 I was supposed to take my motorcycle driving test in Rochester, NY. I would have never ridden my motorcycle to work that rainy, snowy, sleeting day if I weren't that I was supposed to take my driving test that day. At lunch, I went to my scheduled appointment and the test had been canceled due to the weather. I said "Screw it!" and never did get a NY motorcycle endorsement.
Fred
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Posts: 50 04/24/08 5:45 PM |
Personally, I would not like the person giving the test, to give the "answers" to the person being tested! If the rule is you have to have something
protecting your eyes, that is part of the test. I don't fault the person giving the test for doing his/her job.
I have heard that the test in Japan makes ANY test in the US look like kindergarden play. And the bigger the bike you want, the harder the test. No gimmes, and they cost a LOT to take. I would love to see the US give much harder tests to anyone getting a license. Especially a car. When I was 16 a failure on the test would have upset me but not for long. When I turned 16, the morning of my birthday I was waiting for the center to open. Had a 57 Chevy with loud pipes and the testor made me rap it out! My test consisted of going around the block and parallel parking and pretending I was parking uphill. Failed the uphill part, basically 33% or more of the test! Still passed. When I took my motorcycle test, I had to ride around the block and not fall over. Got dinged for not turning on my signal soon enough. Passed. That was 25 years or so ago and haven't taken another test since, except one written test about 8 years ago. |
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